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CoolEdge - Police-fire pensions to go up in smoke? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
during Iraqi Freedom (2003-2007) the death rate was 413/100,000, compared to 16/100,000 for the police. For Vietnam it was 2231/100,000. ... but they often get worse care than illegals.
CoolEdge - Police-fire pensions to go up in smoke? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
All pensions should be funded in a balanced budget. But do you really want to compare a 40 hour week as a Quincy cop with a 24/7 tour of duty in Iraq? The fatality rate is about four times as high for the soldier fighting in Afghanistan (and that includes big city numbers), not to mention the PTSD or other injuries. So your raw number tidbits are a bit deceptive. Farming is almost twice as dangerous…
CoolEdge - Police-fire pensions to go up in smoke? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
That's really the heart of it ... how do government officials have authority to negotiate promises (usually/often for political or monetary support in elections), that don't immediately collect the revenue to fund those promises/contracts? Budgets are supposed to balance, children can't be "taxed" (future obligations) without representation. I thought that was the idea of "PayGo",…
CoolEdge - Police-fire pensions to go up in smoke? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
you're right I'm talking more of the other public unions than fire/police ... it may have been partly private unions busing people in to fight Walker in Wisconsin, but it was over the public union issue. That is the "solidarity" thing. Same with electing pro-union politicians at higher levels than mayor. Trumka has access to the White House, and treats non-union (non-communists) as the…
AYHSMB - Police-fire pensions to go up in smoke? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
What the heck are you talking about, yesquy? How does collective bargaining come into play with your rant? You're talking about nepotism among a small group of local bozos. I'm talking about unsustainable costs that do not happen in the private sector. Show me a private sector company on the scale of a local FD of PD with the same benefits and retirement. Also, you must believe it's…

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5 months, 1 week ago from the Associated Press

Measure would ask voters to impose term limits on state legislators

Illinois Republican gubernatorial candidate Bruce Rauner made a last push Tuesday for court approval of a measure that would ask voters to impose term limits on state legislators, just three days before the November ballot will be finalized.

At a news conference in Springfield, Rauner stressed the urgency of getting a court ruling on the measure he says would be overwhelmingly approved by voters.

The Illinois appellate court is due to rule on the term limits measure's validity in the coming days, and the issue then would have to go to the state Supreme Court for a final decision before the ballot is certified Friday.

"Unfortunately time's running out," Rauner said.

He chairs the Committee for Legislative Reform and Term Limits, which gathered about 600,000 signatures for a ballot measure that would limit legislators to eight years in office, increase the size of the Illinois House, reduce the size of the Senate and make it tougher for the Legislature to override a governor's veto.

But attorneys with ties to top Democrats, including longtime House Speaker Michael Madigan, sued to keep the question off the ballot. Arguing on behalf of several business groups, they say the measure is unconstitutional and that taxpayer money shouldn't be spent on it.

A circuit judge said the question didn't meet a constitutional requirement that any changes to the Legislature be "structural and procedural," sending the measure to the appeals court.

Quinn, who led a voter initiative in 1980 that reduced the number of state representatives, backed a term limits proposal in 1994 that also was thrown out by the courts, and in 2008 advocated for a constitutional convention which would have allowed for consideration of term limits. But he doesn't support Rauner's measure because of the change it makes to the size of the House.

"He shows up this year as someone who says he's for term limits. He wasn't there when we had to get thousands and thousands of signatures for a pure term limits measure," Quinn said Tuesday in Chicago.

Term limits have become a major focus of Rauner's campaign as he portrays himself as a government outsider, a stark contrast to Quinn and Democratic statehouse leaders who have spent decades in elected office. He said Quinn has a poor track record in office.

"He has misled the voters and failed the voters on taxes, on job creation and economic growth, on education and on term limits," Rauner said.


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