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qcity05 - REBEL MEDIA: So I have a sign in my yard - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
8 million dollars in over run cost is built into the 89 million. That was discussed at the meeting too. So, really it's 81 million. If it's under, it's under, but it won't go over. I disagree that the new schools won't last as long. Architects are committed to building quality structures, not like Ellington and Monroe which were designed to be temporary, both of which are almost…
Hinkdad - REBEL MEDIA: So I have a sign in my yard - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
By your own logic, would a positive effect on the teachers not have a positive effect on the students? It's all cause and effect and Newton's 3rd law. I could quote and reference many sources which could then be rebutted by your own, I'll leave the Googling up to you, I have better ways to spend my time. Something we all seem to agree on is that there is an issue and the current structure…
CoolEdge - REBEL MEDIA: So I have a sign in my yard - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
Perhaps UKWP is trying to equate military service with "on the teat" teaching jobs. Of course there are many big differences, especially for military that are deployed, which is part of the job. There are indeed many public school teachers that see their unionized, teaching monopoly, "part time" job as a public service that demands the same respect as our military. Not many retire with PTSD, or…
db1998 - REBEL MEDIA: So I have a sign in my yard - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
how do i get a sign for my yard?
qfingers - REBEL MEDIA: So I have a sign in my yard - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
And you're making the opposite mistake....saying that each thing, when added together, becomes a total justification. That's not how you justify expenditures. You have to make the case for EACH item in it's own right. And you do that compared to what it would cost to fix it in place...assuming you do have to fix it...which apparently we don't...because it hasn't been done.…

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Madigan’s ‘millionaire amendment’ proposal earns mixed reaction

6 months, 4 weeks ago Tobias Wall, State Capitol Bureau

Proposed “millionaires amendment” garnered mostly negative responses from lawmakers

From Tobias Wall, State Capitol Bureau :
Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan's proposed “millionaires amendment” garnered mostly negative responses from local lawmakers.
The Chicago Democrat on Thursday proposed a constitutional amendment that would tack an additional 3 percent surcharge on individual incomes over $1 million. The revenue the tax would generate, estimated to be $1 billion, would be distributed to Illinois' ailing public schools.
Republicans in both the House and Senate are skeptical of the proposal. Rep. Raymond Poe, R-Springfield, wondered what would keep millionaires from moving away.
“If you're making a million dollars, you can afford to move away. I'd like to see some projections at the end of the day, are we really actually going to make money or lose money?” Poe said. “I'm afraid we'll get this mass exodus.”
That exodus, Poe said, could result in a net loss of income tax dollars compared to what the state would normally realize under the status quo.
However, data provided by Madigan's office shows that even with the surcharge in place, the tax liabilities on millionaires in two neighboring states — Iowa and Wisconsin — still would be higher than on those in Illinois.
Poe also said that while he understands the needs of struggling schools, he's skeptical as to whether Madigan's plan is the right way to address them.
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Sen. Sam McCann, R-Carlinville, said earmarking new revenues for education was what lawmakers had in mind when they created the Illinois Lottery, but today, less than 7 percent of education funding comes from the lottery.
Calling Madigan's proposal “a gimmick at best,” McCann said, “there's no doubt we need to grow our revenue in the state, but we need to grow our revenue the way that so many other states have been able to grow it, and that is by increasing the number of people working.”
He said that when more people are working, more revenue flows into the state without the need for a tax increase, including “selective taxes” on millionaires.
Rep. Rich Brauer, a Petersburg Republican, took a slightly different approach, saying the state needs to focus on belt-tightening instead of searching for more money.
“Until we control spending, no matter how much revenue we raise, we will never balance the budget,” he said. “We have to control our spending, and we haven't done that.”

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