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ThomasPaineX - Obama Library House vote not so unanimous after all - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
Sounds a bit prearranged by all parties.
eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo
The quote you cited is a thought-provoking one; your point is well taken. My problem is with this idea (I'm paraphrasing) "if people can't be bothered to acquire a Photo ID, they must not be too interested in having a vote". With all due respect, I can't disagree with that more strongly. The people who have *the least* chance of ever being disenfranchised (the Bushes, Clintons, Kochs,…
eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo
South Carolina's own State Law Enforcement Division (headed by the state's Republican attorney general) went through those (supposed) 35,000 votes with a fine-toothed comb... and eventually found no reason to believe that any fraud had occurred. The vast majority of that 35k figure you mentioned was eventually determined to be simple cases of human clerical error by poll workers; those happen…
SeenTheLight1 - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com
The old City Engineer is now working for the State. Dicky created a job for him!
eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo
I used the word "freely", which does NOT mean "I got an ID for free". As to your other point, all I'll say is that your experiences are not mine, and mine are not yours... Whether you want to believe it or not, there are Americans who through no particular fault of their own, are not capable of acquiring an ID.

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ThomasPaineX - Obama Library House vote not so unanimous after all - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

Sounds a bit prearranged by all parties.

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

The quote you cited is a thought-provoking one; your point is well taken. My problem is with this idea (I'm paraphrasing) "if people can't be bothered to acquire a Photo ID, they must not be too interested in having a vote". With all due respect, I can't disagree with that more strongly. The people who have *the least* chance of ever being disenfranchised (the Bushes, Clintons, Kochs,…

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

South Carolina's own State Law Enforcement Division (headed by the state's Republican attorney general) went through those (supposed) 35,000 votes with a fine-toothed comb... and eventually found no reason to believe that any fraud had occurred. The vast majority of that 35k figure you mentioned was eventually determined to be simple cases of human clerical error by poll workers; those happen…

SeenTheLight1 - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

The old City Engineer is now working for the State. Dicky created a job for him!

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

I used the word "freely", which does NOT mean "I got an ID for free". As to your other point, all I'll say is that your experiences are not mine, and mine are not yours... Whether you want to believe it or not, there are Americans who through no particular fault of their own, are not capable of acquiring an ID.

AYHSMB - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

Hey, while we're discussing meaningless, gravy train jobs, who's the elevator inspector now? :)

AYHSMB - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

"If you and I both go to the polling place to vote, and I'm freely allowed to vote but you have to pay $20 before you're allowed to exercise that right.... that's not fair." Your words. So, how did YOU get a free ID? You can't vote if you're not a citizen. How did you prove you were citizen? Thomas Paine said…

UrKidsWillPay - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

The problem isn't just dead people voting. It's also living people voting multiple times. On of the Carolina's recently identified 35,000 voters with the same names and date of birth voted more than once in 2012. Most likely these are college students but 35,000 is a major case of potential fraud

SeenTheLight1 - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

Sorry I forgot about John. But Don was before him. Don't know if there was anyone before. I think the Deputy Mayor filled it then.

QuincyJournal - REBEL MEDIA: Did thin-skinned Peoria mayor sic police on Tweeter? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.

It certainly adds to the absurdity. @NOTMayorSpring needs a cameo appearance. BG

eaglebeaky - REBEL MEDIA: Did thin-skinned Peoria mayor sic police on Tweeter? - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.

Wow... that video was the perfect addition to this story. Kudos, BG.

HuhWhy - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

John Ohnumus was the HR Director for a lengthy period of time until he took over as Transit Director then Rick Meehan filled that position in addition to being DAS.

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

That has been my argument all along, Jester. If local election boards simply do their job and cross-check lists of eligible living voters against Death Certificates [to ensure that voter rolls are accurate and up-to-date], this ludicrous idea of an epidemic of "dead people voting" goes away. I've never once seen a dead person doing their grocery shopping, or mailing a letter at the post office,…

SeenTheLight1 - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

Don Adolf held the position before Mr. Olsen. There has been someone there for many years.

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

... and by that argument Righty1, all of the recent election shenanigans in Florida and Ohio are "good sources" that the exact opposite is also true. (I don't necessarily believe *that* either.) It's easy to play a dysfunctional game of "Mad Libs" about any issue: "[Group you happen to disagree with] is responsible for [something that no one in their right mind likes]". But that's…

DaveVictor - Firefighters and Bus Drivers contracts to go to City Council - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJournal.com

Remember who held the job before Olson? Me neither. The position didn't exist prior to 2005. Spring created it for his son's father-in-law.

quincyjester - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

Let's assume that PF's numbers are accurate. Because there are dead people on the rolls that does not mean that they are voting. But, lets say that 100% of them are voting. It is unreasonable to say they are all voting in the same place. If all 24,000 fraudulent voters all showed up in a place like Quincy we would notice. So lets assume they are distributed all around the state. So 24k…

Righty1 - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

Chicago would be a good source.

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

AYHSMB: you claimed that "voter fraud is a predominantly Democrat[ic] tool". Could you do me a favor and cite your sources for that "fact"?

eaglebeaky - Voter rights, crime victim rights amendments set for fall ballot so far - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJo

AYHSMB, the issue isn't "free" IDs... the issue [that these arbitrary state-by-state Voter ID laws cause] is that acquiring an ID in the first place has a cost. Some states have Voter ID laws in place; others don't. That means that [depending solely on the state that a person lives in] some people are forced to pay a fee before they can vote. Please show me [in any of the founding documents…



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