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qfingers - Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJourna
Since ice volume is a calculated value of a model and absolutely impossible to ever verify (with today's technology) you will NEVER convince me to trust an answer from it. With that being said their model looks very much like the real data. Decline which might be recovering now (only time will tell). Of continuing interest is the hiatus since 2002 of global temps which IMHO pretty much disproves…
Expatriate - Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJourna
1979 is selected in these types of charts because that's when we first had a satellite in orbit that could provide us with much more accurate data. If you want to get out the chart showing pre-1979 data, you'd be looking at much less accurate data derived from things like navigational ice charts from shipping vessels, tree rings and ice core analysis... You're not going to like the scientists…
CoolEdge - Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJourna
30 years of cooling (to 1980 or so) then 30 years warming They use the data on the warming half of one cycle, and call it "long term". They need 50 cycles, not one half of one cycle ... dishonest arses. They know damn well they start at the end of a long cooling period, yet don't account for it, and usual only a straight line linear regression for their argument, which hides the last 18 years…
CoolEdge - Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJourna
"The rest of Taylor’s article is just whitewash intended to distract readers from these facts." So these guys are mind readers, not scientists? They can read his intent? Or they are using personal attacks when they don't have facts on their side? I think the U of I boyz are the ones spinning here. Taylor notes this short time range ... readings from 1979 are not "long term" when it…
Expatriate - Updated NASA Data: Global Warming Not Causing Any Polar Ice Retreat - Quincy, IL News - QuincyJourna
Al Gore is an idiot. There's no denying that. For the record, I bet Taylor understands the data just fine. That's how he knows where to cherry-pick.

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Court rules state retirees can stop paying health insurance premiums

8 months, 3 weeks ago Doug Finke, State Capitol Bureau

It will be months, however, before retirees will begin seeing a return of paid amounts

From Doug Finke, State Capitol Bureau:
State government retirees will no longer have health insurance premiums deducted from their pension benefits following a Sangamon County court ruling Thursday.
It will be months, however, before retirees will begin seeing a return of the insurance premiums they already have paid.
Judge Steven Nardulli issued a preliminary injunction Thursday that will stop the state from continuing to deduct health insurance premiums from retiree pension checks.
Chief deputy attorney general Brent Stratton said the withholdings should stop for checks going out Oct. 1 and later. Because the order will take time to implement, the changes can’t be in place by Monday, he said.
“The only reasonable expectation that we had coming into this hearing today was met,” said Don Craven, one of the attorneys representing retirees in their fight to stop the health insurance premiums. “The judge has ordered that all withholding be stopped as quickly as possible.”
The Illinois Supreme Court ruled in July that state-subsidized health insurance is a protected pension benefit and the state cannot charge premiums for it. People who retired with 20 or more years of service were entitled to premium-free state health insurance.
Despite that ruling, the state continued to deduct premiums from retiree pension checks because the Supreme Court sent the lawsuit back to Sangamon County for further proceedings.
Retirees are paying 1 percent of their pension checks toward their health insurance if they are covered by Medicare and 2 percent if they are not covered by Medicare.
Left unresolved was how to return millions of dollars in insurance premiums that retirees have paid since July 1, 2013, when the premium payments began. Lawyers for the state wanted time to make additional filings in the case. The next hearing isn’t scheduled until Nov. 21.
“At the rate we’re going, that probably won’t happen until next year some time,” said John Myers, another attorney representing retirees.
Nardulli flatly told the attorneys that he doesn’t “intend to bog this down for several years.”
“I think the Supreme Court was pretty clear that all monies owed to retirees be returned to them,” Nardulli said.
That may be easier in some cases than others. Money withheld from members of the State Employees’ Retirement System has been held in an escrow account. That account had $24.9 million in it as of last week, Myers said.
Premiums withheld from members of the other state retirement systems were not held in escrow.

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